[pampa]

You are right, I never used Matrix. I guess i have to check it out. Missed it. Usable client apps for martix are what, 1.5 years old?

Signal seems to have been around for ages. OTP even longer

[kitkat_new]

> Usable client apps for martix are what, 1.5 years old?

Older, Element (also known as Riot and Vector) should already have been existing for at least 5 years.