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by reitanqild 1987 days ago
Edit, first things first:

> Is Facebook Messaging encrypted messaging?

Facebook messaging is not "encrypted messaging" AFAIK.

But if you say it sends the messages unencrypted like people claim Telegram does I will probably point out that you are wrong even if I don't like Facebook at all.

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Tell me then: If you call point-to-point-encrypted "unencrypted", what do you call the old WhatsApp protocol from before Moxie helped them, which actually sent messages unencrypted? [1]

What do you call the files that Whatsapp store on my phone (messages.db or something) that I can transfer to my computer and open without any tooling besides a zip tool and SQLite?

Unencrypted -- ?

Even more unencrypted?

There is a reason why we keep repeating our plea to differ between unencrypted, point-to-point-encrypted and end-to-end-encrypted and it is not because we adore all of Telegrams decisions, at least not for all of us.

It is because precision often matters in engineering and I think especially for security work.

[1]: Irony over irony, I used to love them back then. I knew fixing the crypto part would be doable and they were such a nice company with such a nice business model which aligned so nicely with our interests as users.

1 comments

> Unencrypted

Yes?