[jedberg]

A company that makes cast iron skillets can still have software as a core part of their business. Logistics, monitoring the manufacturing process, forecasting demand. All of these things can be software that is core to business. Or even more important, having a useful website for selling their products.

[bigiain]

Sure, but Le Creuset will never describe themselves as "a software business"...

(And if they did, I'd immediately be looking for a different cookware supplier.)

[jedberg]

Ah yeah I don't think asking if they are a "software business" is actually a good question.

But I'd still be wary of working for them if their software engineers were in IT.

[bigiain]

On the other hand, would you _ever_ have even _considered_ working for Juicero? <smirk>

[jedberg]

Haha I would not, but that has nothing to do with where their software engineers were classified in their org. ;)

[pjmlp]

This kind of companies don't have software engineers per se, they outsource everything and just keep management around, even IT.