[apta_]

> To me it seems obvious the feedback works in the opposite direction. Deplatforming disrupts the feedback bubbles that radicalize these people.

I think it will push them off to even more obscure platforms, and the ones that do make it there will be much more extreme and dangerous. They'll be harder to monitor as well.

At some point, a show of force might be necessary.

[newguy1234]

Really do you want the government to do something similar to the "night of the long knives" like what happened in Germany? Think about what type of message that is sending and what type of society you want to live in.

I find it very hard to believe that people get the impression that Trump was the fascist when you are over here advocating for a fascist method of silencing opposition groups.

Violence and persecution is never the answer.

[Daishiman]

Historically fascists movements have always been finished through bloodshed.

[germinalphrase]

Or they simply fizzle out as their obscurity undermines recruitment. We’ll see.

[apta_]

That didn't work out so well with ISIS did it?

[zelly]

In 2011-2014 era, IS*S was huge on Twitter. Not many people seem to remember this happened. They were posting propaganda videos and actively recruiting people on the public timeline. Jack was letting that go on for years. A lot of the terror attacks in that era were tied back to people getting recruited online.

Now it's basically dead. Was it the deplatforming? Did the world just move on? Nobody knows.

[germinalphrase]

ISIS had clear ideological roots in the region, recruitment of socially disgraced military leaders, and a complete power vacuum to fill as they ravished a vulnerable, impoverish and diffuse population. What an absurd, ahistorical example.

[apta_]

And far right groups don't have ideological roots in the US? It's not absurd, it's history.

[germinalphrase]

Yes, it’s absurd to argue that kicking some people off a social media website is equivalent to: an existing domestic terror group that has committed organized violence at home and abroad (Al Qaida) is going to produce an even more radical offshoot organization (ISIS) after the government is destroyed by a foreign adversary (USA) leaving an entire geographic region without any projection of force (the Levant).

[paganel]

Many of those “domestic terrorists” have fought against “foreign” terrorists for the government of the United States, having as leaders of their chain of command people who now vilify them (both Bush Jr and Obama). This is Rambo I all over again, only that it doesn’t take place out somewhere in the obscure woods but in the open political field.