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by pqhwan 1981 days ago
Btw even Matt Gaetz can’t defend that one, which is why you see him hallucinating under command on national television about them being antifa.
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Matt Gaetz is not an authority on what is true and his take on things is irrelevant in this thread.
Clearly not. But it’s a clear example of where the rest of this society is drawing the line.
That argument is as valid as the argument that I should jump off a cliff because the rest of society is doing it.
That argument is as valid as arguing that jumping off cliffs for no reason and admitting that breaking into congress is bad are equivalent.
I never compared jumping off cliffs and breaking into Congress. The point is that your argument that we ought to condemn the actions of the trump supporters because the rest of society has done so is not a rational argument.

I don’t think breaking into Congress is always bad. I support people’s right to peaceful protest. The Trump supporters by and large did not initiate violence, the violence was initiated on them by the police. If there was evidence that the trump supporters actually were initiating mass violence against people in the capitol that would be a different story, but with 4 unarmed protestors dead, they were the only ones who suffered casualties. That’s simply a fact.

You’re drawing a line that any protest which occupies the capitol is immoral. I disagree with that but if you really believe that, was it immoral when the women’s March protesters took the capitol? https://twitter.com/EgSophie/status/1048634940169048064?s=20

> your argument that we ought to condemn the actions of the trump supporters because the rest of society has done so is not a rational argument.

I’m not arguing that at all, I’m just telling you what the rest of the society is doing; that pressure you feel to change your opinion is coming entirely from within yourself.

> was it immoral when the women’s March protesters took the capitol?

I’m not sure, let me check: did they break windows and doors to gain entry into the capitol building? Did they break into representatives’ offices? Were there weapons and detaining tools found on their persons?

> I never compared jumping off cliffs and breaking into Congress.

You’re not a child, I think, so I can’t scare you with made up stories about what happens when you lie. But seriously, it’s not good for you, or those around you.