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by nec4b 1990 days ago
I think people from at least some countries of the world would disagree with you about communism being dead. Is there any major fascist political party in the west that has any kind of msm support? On the other hand, almost every western country has a socialist party in their respective parliament. As liberal doesn't it bother you that ideas which were the cause of so much misery in the world when implemented in communist countries are still being recycled over and over in parliaments of western countries at least as much as a few fascists do?
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> I think people from at least some countries of the world would disagree with you about communism being dead

Possibly, but to me in the West I don't feel like there's any remotely plausible threat of communists coming to power in my country or any Western country that I know of.

> On the other hand, almost every western country has a socialist party in their respective parliament

I know I'm probably talking to an American here so I guess there's a reasonable chance that everything that isn't libertarian hyper-capitalism is literally Juche communism, but in reality, these mainstream so-called "socialist parties" in the West are overwhelmingly liberal in character. There are exceptions, such as Die Linke in Germany, and yeah I find them pretty vile, but they're mostly irrelevant. For example, I am British and our mainstream opposition party is nominally "socialist" but in actual fact fundamentally liberal and not at all about the overthrow of capitalism.

> As liberal doesn't it bother you that ideas which were the cause of so much misery in the world when implemented in communist countries are still being recycled over and over in parliaments of western countries

For the aforementioned reasons, where European "socialist" parties are more about making capitalism a little bit less American/cutthroat/fuck-you-I-got-mine, rather than literal democratic ownership of the means of production, no, not really. Europe is fundamentally capitalist and liberal.

In the UK you don't have an iota of a "fascist" party to be worried about. I agree that the labour party is only "nominally socialist", but at least from Corbyn forward I would not call them liberal. And they have lost touch with the working people about at the same time as well.