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Indeed, but great-grandparent's assertions that said votes are reliably democratic are nonsense. Cuban-Americans tend to vote Republican (ask Marco Rubio), there are plenty of other Hispanics who vote Republican (ask Rafael "Ted" Cruz), and in fact, in the 2020 elections, Republicans have picked up votes in all sorts of immigrant communities (all the more remarkable, in my opinion, because it's hard to think how much less welcoming the party could be to immigrants).

And some of the most rabid Trump supporters are recent immigrants (cf the Epoch Times' role in the last years, or the fact that one of the arrested Capitol rioters, Yevgenya Malimon, mother of an Oregon Republican party official, needed a Russian interpreter at her arraignment).

Think of other right wing voices in the US: Peter Thiel (first generation immigrant), Ron Unz (second generation), Roosh V (second generation).

Meanwhile, one of the key demographics for Biden's win in Arizona was high turnout among — Native Americans, the Final Boss of non-immigrants.

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>Indeed, but great-grandparent's assertions that said votes are reliably democratic are nonsense.

They seem pretty reasonable to me, having looked at the numbers.

The Cuban community is the only community of fairly recent immigrants of which I'm aware that doesn't reliably vote for democrats, on the whole. Outside of Florida, their votes do not make Hispanic votes in general swing toward republicans.

Hispanic votes for republicans may have increased this year, but they are still absolutely nowhere near 50/50.

My understanding of the Epoch Times is that it's run by anti-CCP Chinese, and not very representative of Asians in general.

Listing single individuals is not relevant when the topic is how a community votes.

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> The Cuban community is the only community of fairly recent immigrants of which I'm aware that doesn't reliably vote for democrats

Vietnamese Americans tend to vote Republican as well, and until the Trump era, so did Filipino Americans: https://asiamattersforamerica.org/articles/key-statistics-on...

> Hispanic votes for republicans may have increased this year, but they are still absolutely nowhere near 50/50.

Sure, but I find it remarkable that they increased vote share AT ALL while running on a fairly explicitly anti-Hispanic immigration platform.

> My understanding of the Epoch Times is that it's [...] not very representative of Asians in general.

But apparently quite influential in some language communities.

I'm not arguing that recent immigrants do not, overall, predominantly vote Democratic. But I think that behavior is not nearly as immutable as this discussion suggests. Many immigrants (a) come to the US in search of economic opportunities and (b) have somewhat more conservative personal values than their US-born peers. So they should be quite amenable to some flavors of Republicanism.

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Russian too. Many of them watch Russian state TV at home, which is heavy on pro-Trump, anti-american propaganda.