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by hedora 1995 days ago
After Brexit, we out-idioted you.

Now that the pendulum is swinging back, hopefully we’ll take this a challenge to out-competent you as well.

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As long as you think in terms of “us versus you” the pendulum will keep swinging.

That’s how you started fighting among yourselves, after all.

I like that take.

Britain: Brexit.

USA: Hold my beer!

Ireland: Can you both stop please we're getting a headache.
Hardly. Both Trump and Biden will be gone (probably dead) after four more years and things will return to normal. All doors will eventually reopen.

Britain will never return to the normalcy of EU membership. Things have changed permanently for that country in a way that they might not have if they’d voted remain. Doors are now closed for them.

Biden's presidency is not the abnormal thing. It'll be yet another neo-liberal administration.

The abnormal thing is the genie of reactionary populism that the Republicans unleashed a decade ago, starting with the Tea Party, and culminating with the Trump party. Given that prominent republicans (Ted Cruz) are actively trying to marshal those forces behind them[1], I don't think that we'll be going back to normal anytime soon.

[1] He's far more likely to win the 2024 nomination than someone like Mitt Romney, who, for all his faults, is not happy with Trumpism.

I was trying to be inclusive. My point was that everything 2020-related will be dead by 2024.
Your comment was that "trump and biden will be gone, things will return to normal".

The parent is rightly pointing out that it doesn't matter if those specific individuals in power are gone, that doesn't mean the broader movements around them will change.

The problems of the world are rarely due to a single person, and rarely are solved by a single person losing power. Behind that single person is a system, and a new person will take their place if the system isn't also changed.

We can still take little england by force!