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by wassenaar10 1987 days ago
Perhaps westerners could learn a thing or two from this attitude.
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We definitely should learn it: and treat those with adversarial intent (China) as the enemy they are.
What makes you think China has adversarial intent? Or are you just feeling insecure at the fact that white people may no longer be at the top?
The other comment in response covers it, mostly. To your second question: the first thing that comes to mind about China is “did it happen in modern China or Nazi Germany?”, not “oh noes whites are not in charge there!”
1. China does not share liberal values. They have been genociding Uighurs for many years.

2. China is bent on expanding territory. It has border disputes with nearly all of its neighbors. https://asianews.press/2020/06/30/china-has-border-dispute-l...

3. China has threatened military action against western allies, like Taiwan.

4. China has repeatedly violated promises that its made, like the Hong Kong handover.

5. China steals sensitive technology and manufacturing plans from foreign companies. It has mandated that foreign companies establish joint ventures with Chinese companies to do business in China, with unrestricted access to all internal company documents and systems of the foreign company.

American companies used to have this attitude. I have always wondered what changed.
It became unnecessary for survival.
I suspect a comment above you spelled it out: corporations value stock price too highly.

When stock price is all that matters, cutting costs wherever they think they can get away with it is the end result (over a long enough period, I'd assume this will always happen as execs cycle through)

As things (engineering, components, design, UX, etc) are cut, customers notice - and switch to brands that they percieve as having cut less. One example of this I'd assume is Apple.

That’s an interesting take, but I was making a different point. Corporations will always do what’s necessary to thrive, and what they need to thrive is largely a function of what society demands. If the corporations are taking down their nationalist trappings, then it’s because we no longer demand them. As far as my globalist politics is concerned, that’s good and well.
Erosion of traditional values through marxism, feminism etc. Japan is still holding but not for long.
For the people lost about the connection:

Fascists value:

- corporatism

- nationalism

- "traditional values"

- masculinity / machismo

This guy is arguing that we've been straying from these (his) ideals, and corporations that don't stay domestic are part of a larger narrative of cultural decline.

Are you serious?
What? Are you suggesting that a lack of fealty to corporations is a result of the rise of feminism and marxism? Could you give more detail on these connections?
Isn't it more a lack of fealty from corporations?
Perhaps you could elaborate a bit? I’m not sure I follow how Marxism and Feminism eroded values to change Western business practices.