[volgo]

If you’ve visited India, you wouldn’t be surprised. Most women do stay home and take care of kids

And it’s really hard work btw, cooking and looking after the house and kids. They’re definitely not just “sitting home and drinking tea.”

[iguy]

Yes I exaggerate slightly. But I wonder a lot about the quality of this data. Doesn't about half the country still work on farms? Low-tech farming has endless labor for all kinds of hands, but little paperwork.

[asenna]

I'm from an upper middle-class family in India and the data from all my relatives (including distant ones) matches this - 80% does seem about right for housewives. Similar for my friends.

It's changing rapidly with the newer generation but for my parents' generation that is definitely the norm.

[bloodorange]

It's not exaggeration. It's disrespectful and taking their effort for granted.

[iguy]

To be clear, I mentioned this stereotype specifically to claim this is not what's happening.

[renewiltord]

Yeah, but it's a serious waste of their abilities as humans. It's no surprise that dual-professional households there who hire specialists for the cooking and looking after the house parts have better lives (as judged by the fact that few women who are professionals will want to become housewives while the opposite is a common desire).

[dudul]

How is taking care of their children a serious waste of their abilities as humans?

When you look at all the BS jobs around, spending your time taking care of your family sounds much more productive and rewarding to me.

[renewiltord]

Because there are rapid diminishing returns with every extra hour past the first few. My parents put a lot of work into me, but they were also full-time surgeons. My mum most definitely put a hell of a lot of work into me but she didn't spend all the time at home.

Worked out pretty well.

Of course you want to allow for people to do whatever they want, but part of that is enabling them to not have to be stay-at-home parents. And most people want to do something more than that, in practice, because creating things is a fundamental human need that most people have. If people want to be stay-at-home parents and they can do it, more power to them, but it's important to allow them to make that choice otherwise unconstrainedly and not through societal pressure to keep women at home because jobs are unsafe (there are whole categories of work one avoids at the margin in India if one is a woman, because you cannot guarantee safe transport from/to one's place of work).

[dudul]

> I turned out to be pretty damned awesome.

I'm not gonna waste time arguing with someone who writes something like that.

[renewiltord]

Don't be like that. It's just a bit of humour. But fine, I took it out. Anyway, it's not important enough to argue so this is an okay outcome.

[citrablue]

One example from your own experience is not generalizable.

[renewiltord]

It isn't meant to be. It's meant to be an existence proof to allow people the freedom to work.

[imtringued]

It's not rewarding when those kids are the reason you are extremely poor. Population growth requires ever increasing productivity to maintain the same standard of living or people must sacrifice their standard of living until they die from preventable diseases or starvation.

Forcing people to have less children is bad (see one child policy). If people want to have less children voluntarily then you've found a way to success.