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by natfriedman 1996 days ago
GitHub still allows public repo access even in sanctioned locations like Syria and Crimea.
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> Crimea

Why would Crimea be sanctioned? It was annexed.

That's like sanctioning the citizens of Iraq for the 2003 US invasion and occupation...

https://www.state.gov/ukraine-and-russia-sanctions/

ctrl + f "Crimea", there's some interesting information there. It lists specific companies and explains why.

edit: This is a specific example: https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sm889

yes, it’s stupid and such sanctions led to more anti-west/us and more pro-russia sentiment in Crimea.

Source: have relatives there

Which parts of the Crimean sanctions are normal people most upset about?

The ones I'm seeing on the Treasury page target specific individuals and companies. And they're coordinated with Canada and other countries, and the EU.

The termination of processing in Crimea by Visa and MasterCard was actually a big deal. It came out of nowhere. One morning ATMs and terminals in shops just stopped working and everybody was left with maybe some cash and a bunch of useless cards. It was not a joke. I was making trips to the nearest working ATM in Russia with like 15 credit cads of our friends and relatives with scribbled pin-codes - a 6-7 hour drive one way, often only to find that we need to drive further to find a not yet emptied ATM. And then returning with a bag of cash.

And then the same winter Ukraine cut electricity and water supply. I remember doing homework with kids by a candle light, wearing warm jackets inside because heating didn't work. Fun times. I don't know how this all was supposed to turn people of Crimea back to Ukraine and who thought it was a good idea. I think it worked the opposite way and turned a lot of locals into supporters of the annexation.

Anyway, I'd say the most upsetting result of the sanctions is almost total absence of large international and Russian business in Crimea. It makes everything very expensive. It's like an additional tax on everything. For example, no large Russian bank has a local branch. There are only few small local banks and as a result it is really hard to get a business loan or mortgage, and the rates are bad. There are almost no stores of big food chains, and it means the food is more expensive than in mainland Russia; there are no McDonalds, no Burger King or Starbucks; you cannot receive an international delivery and you have to pay to one of the many proxy services that re-send packages if you want to receive a package from Amazon; no international flights which means you always need to buy a flight to Moscow first; etc.

Looks like your real problem is that the new overlords actually give a shit about the people. They don't invest in anything unless it is strategically valuable infrastructure.
Why no Russian businesses? I can understand blaming the West and Ukraine for their boycotts, but how come Russia gets a pass for screwing you over as well?
After annexation, a number of sanctions were put in place against Crimea as a whole. Visa and MasterCard stopped processing payments, eBay and Amazon stopped shipping, Upwork blocked freelancers with Crimean addresses. Some of the sanctions were lifted months to years later, but I am wondering how this must have made the average citizen of the annexed region feel in meantime.
the freelancers and devs were the ones: (a) most independent from the government (derived their livelihood not from state) and (b) most liberal-minded and friendly to the West.

Now, because of sanctions, they can only work for Russian government and companies.

Speaking of freelancers as others did, basically they all went through acquaintances or shell companies in Russia in order to receive funds from the West. Which doesn't sound like what the US wanted, to me.
Except that Iraqis were not forced to take US citizenship. They are still, and will be, citizens of Iraq.

I think it's still possible to hold Ukrainian citizenship in Russia-occupied Crimea, but your life will be thoroughly miserable.

Presumably, they want to keep the pressure on Russia. I don't know why we would sanction Crimea rather than all Russian-held territory, though.
Because Crimea isn't part of Russia for the US and much of the world.
IIRC, Russia provides gas to Europe.
No, it wasn't. It's under occupation.
same thing for Syria.