[yelsgib]

God, even worse is -Capitalist-. Socialists say the US is Capitalist, Libertarians say the US is Socialist. Who knows? What a waste of words.

[rw]

Even deeper: The American free-market libertarians pulled a coup when they were able to redefine, in public discourse, what it means to have 'liberty' (compare the definition of 'libertarian' ca. 1900 Europe and ca. 2000's USA).

[gaius]

Or the way the words "liberal" and "progressive" have been hijacked by people who actually believe in the USSR of the 1950s.

[ibsulon]

In what sense? The progressive movement as currently constructed is not enamored with neither Leninism nor Stalinism, though there is sometimes a smidge of respect for Trotsky.

The 80s just called and they want your meme back.