[fearface]

My LG CX turns on in less than 2s and shows the picture from the HDMI input. The TV can’t access the internet.

I use OpenRGB to disable all lights, or sometimes I’m in the Cyberpunk 2077 mood and make it yellow.

I’m curious that people want to pay more to get less.

[capableweb]

> I’m curious that people want to pay more to get less.

Actually a fairly old adage when it comes to lots of things, not just TVs. Sometimes it's for creativity (limiting yourself to only using specific set of hardware for music production) and sometimes for better user experience (like in industrial design, Dieter Rams' (Braun) simpler radios with less functionality is a famous example, ~1960). Dieter Ram also had a large influence on design in general, and states one of the principles for "Good design" is "Good design is minimal – Less is more. Simple as possible but not simpler. Good design elevates the essential functions of a product."

[SulfurHexaFluri]

The thing is the core idea of smart TVs is good. I _do_ want to be able to stream content to my tv. Its just that TV OEMs can't pull it off or support it for the lifetime of the TV so I would rather nothing than something that makes the tv worse.

[skazazes]

I would agree if the lighting settings were stored on device across the board. I went the route of not paying more for hardware without RGB and am regretting it 6 months later. Disabling the RGB on my GPU persists across OS re-installs as well as driver updates, but my RAM and motherboard's lights require their own program each constantly running in the background in order to NOT have a light show on at all times. Furthermore, when turning on the computer all of the lights are on in full rainbow until these programs launch and ultimately turn off the lights.

Because of the additional friction involved I do not agree with the just turn off rgb mentality many in the hobby push

[mikepurvis]

I'm a generation behind on PC hardware, so I haven't had to deal with this yet, but surely in most cases there'd be a way to physically disable it? I'd expect there to be a jumper you could open or maybe even a trace which could be carefully cut if you don't mind a destructive option.

Anyway, certainly the whole thing has gotten bit out of control. An optional RGB header on a motherboard is one thing, but on the sound card? Total madness: https://youtu.be/0NMlWg-7Crg?t=29