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by dawnerd 1993 days ago
So if a car stops charging for whatever reason (fault, someone unplugs, finished charging) they get fined too since they're not actively charging? Seems like a system with more potential problems than it solves.

In general I'm against any system that automatically fines people.
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mattlondon 1993 days ago
Most charge points charge extra if you are sitting in the bay but have completed charging anyway as I understand it.

I also think that for safety reasons you cannot just unplug a charging EV car without stopping th charge first (i.e. a child cannot just walk up and knock the plug out etc).

If there is a fault in the charger, then I expect a "smart" parking spot to deal with that.

To be honest, the better approach in my mind is to put the electric charging bays further away from the entrance to the store or whatever. Quite often EV charging spaces are some of the "best" (i.e. closest) spaces available. Selfish pricks who want to park right by the door don't care if it is a disabled space, an EV space, or not even an official parking space at all - they'll just park where they want. Move the EV charging spaces further away from the store and you'll solve 99% of ICE'ings I reckon.

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dawnerd 1993 days ago
Completely agree with the completed charging is a bad move but that problem is solved with idle fees.

Also you absolutely can remove a charger while its going and I've had it happen multiple times on my M3 when charging at a L2. I do get a notification but like.

But yes, spot on just put the chargers where no one wants to park. They keep installing them right at the front of stores and wondering why people ICE them.

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ClumsyPilot 1993 days ago
> Selfish pricks who want to park right by the door don't care if it is a disabled space, an EV space, or not even an official parking space at all

Seems like the right behaviour to discourage, just like littering, etc

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ianai 1993 days ago
Agree. Particularly if they’re going to be parked there for hours. This depends on the installer and person paying for the outlet though. I’ve seen both situations.
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sys_64738 1993 days ago
This is in Britain where they constantly foist such automation on the unsuspecting public.
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cameronh90 1993 days ago
Why do you think we're against it?
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