[ericnolte]

Skills associated with great leadership have many applications outside of leadership itself. Traits such as high empathy, confidence, creativity, flexibility make great leaders, but also just generally make great people. It would be no surprise the two are correlated!

[dnautics]

Honestly as a follower those are commonly praised, but bad signals. You want a leader who is loyal to you and materially and socially supportive of you above almost all else. It's such a mind fuck to work for someone who is empathetic but doesn't stand up for you, or even undermines what you are doing (whether or not deliberately). You can wind up sinking years of your life by being stuck in that situation without even seeing it

[HarryHirsch]

We'd do well if we all lived by the immortal words of Arthur Seaton: "There's no peace between worker and management, only a truce over paychecks."

[dnautics]

Paychecks are the "almost all else" in my assertion, yes. But I think it's wrong to assume that jobs can't or shouldn't provide value beyond remuneration.