[richardfey]

> On the other hand, there's Linus Torvalds. He has incredibly effective leadership, over almost 30 years

He is not effective on my scale: he has alienated a huge amount of contributors with his abusive style of communication.

And please do not say that it is necessary for "filtering" and quality assurance, it is equivalent to justifying mobbing.

Another unsuccessful aspect I blame him for is the sorry status of the kernel security, "a bug is a bug" and similar stuttering nonsense.

[beagle3]

Who is effective on your scale? I suspect Jobs, Gates, Ballmer and even Pichai have alienated more people than Torcalds, if that’s your metric (it’s hot mine). Though Linus is the only one doing it in public - other than some anecdotes about chair throwing and cursing, you don’t hear about the others.

[richardfey]

It is not acceptable whether it is in public or not.