[imraj96]

Genuinely curious to know why you think the gulen movement is a bigger threat to secularism & democracy in Turkey & the world. From my findings, they start & fund secular schools(elementary to university), fund & organize interfaith dialogues, fund social programmes etc.

I've skimmed a couple of books written by Fetullah gulen and what he preaches peace, love and cooperation amongst all. Of course, every group has it's idiosyncrasies, but can't find anything out of the ordinary with the gulen movement.

Has it been established with proof that the gulen movement is responsible for the coup?

[mcsofake]

> I've skimmed a couple of books written by Fetullah gulen and what he preaches peace, love and cooperation amongst all.

He's a lovely fellow indeed: https://twitter.com/kyleworton/status/1086084532393136128

[Aduket]

That's the beauty of it; he had been favored as the harbinger of "moderate and peaceful islam that west had been trying to spread in the middle east, starting from turkey", and he played it pretty well in their eyes. and by milking this very support of the western countries, he managed to infiltrate in very critical positions in Turkey, thanks to his well educated followers, who were picked up from poor families as teens in the outskirts of Turkey. For this very reason, his followers also have held key positions in many african and asian countries.

These well educated brainwashed army of his followers, who are hidden their secret agenda under the "peace, love and cooperation" are greater threat to Turkey and all these corresponding countries than Erdogan might dare to pose, whose followers are just uneducated, nationalist inferiority complex driven, unintelligent turkish people.

Yes, it is certain that it was fethullah gulen movement behind the coup. However, erdogan took advantage of this to gain the absolute power of the country and to suppress all the opposing voices.

[selimthegrim]

Gulen’s group used to give answers for civil service exams to his followers on the condition that once they were inside they were owned body and soul