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by ra7 2003 days ago
Sorry, this is just wishful thinking. Computers don’t have human brains which have evolved over millions of years. So just saying “if humans do it with only vision, so can computers” is frankly weak logic. The technology isn’t there yet to match human brain performance, unless you believe Tesla will achieve several breakthroughs in computer vision and AI to do this.
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Erlich_Bachman 2003 days ago
Who said that the technology was there? Did you even read the previous comments or just jumped onto the hate wagon because of preconceptions?

The question was why it is possible. Not why "it should work today", nor "why it will most definitely 100% happen guaranteed in the next couple of years".

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ra7 2003 days ago
So the technology isn’t there and nobody has gotten anywhere close to achieving those significant breakthroughs in vision or AI, but it’s “perfectly possible” with current hardware “because humans do it”? This answer makes no sense.

The real answer is nobody knows whether current hardware is enough or not, including Tesla. Until they demonstrate it, it’s just a claim. But they can’t sell the cars on FSD promise if they say it.

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Erlich_Bachman 2003 days ago
Humans don't need lidar -> that means all the information is present in the visual channel -> it is at least theoretically possible to do with cameras -> tesla cars have cameras -> tesla cars might have possibility to do it.
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ra7 2003 days ago
> it is at least theoretically possible to do with cameras

Theoretically, yes. But that’s different than confidently claiming it’s “perfectly possible” and that it’s only a question of computation and modeling.

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Erlich_Bachman 2003 days ago
Which is what the original poster wrote which you for some reason have a problem decoding:

"it’s possible that most Teslas on the road today will be capable of being upgraded to L5 capability via a software update."

He didn't say it will definitely guaranteed happen.

The antonym of the word possible is impossible, which if you try in that same sentence you'll see that it doesn't make any sense that way.

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ra7 2002 days ago
Tesla is categorically saying all their vehicles on the road have necessary hardware for full self driving. Did you somehow miss this? They’re taking money on this promise. So who cares if the original poster snuck in the word ‘possible’ or not?
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CorrectHorseBat 2003 days ago
What about the other hardware, the computer doing the actual computations?
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