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by seer 2001 days ago
The way I see it, you are just a single data point to the senior people. You mention something, they hear it from a couple of other places and they are now convinced that its a good path forward.

You can put your black hat and game this by making sure you suggest whatever you’re after to more people/sources of info that your target listens to. Bonus points for going through intermediaries that obscure the source of the idea.

At some point, your senior decision maker has his “epiphany” as what you want is “what everybody is talking about”.

Interestingly this is something we talk about with my partner as a lot of times one of us would suggest something, the other might be dismissive, but then someone else would suggest, it gets done and and I/she would get upset that “you listen to them but not to me”.

But in reality whats going on is that we are both waiting to accumulate enough data points to make a heuristic work.

Once that became apparent we’re much more understanding to each other.

As for managers, if they smart enough, they would notice that a lot of the things you’re suggesting ends up what being done, and at some point they would value your points a lot more. But hardly anyone would use only one source of input to make their decisions.

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I've learned the best way to get ideas going in a corporate settings are:

- pitch the idea to as many folks as possible. Not just to the ones who are going to okay it. Even if only a small portion of each idea resonates with each person, you now have them all slightly on board, which is all you need to get a foot in the door. The more people on board, the more you can back yourself up with to get the okay

- do proof of concepts yourself. I always carve out some time to implement a MVP of my ideas, and then use that to hook people.

- make a design doc. I hate doing this personally, but a lot of people respond well to the idea of one, even if most won't read it. It's just the idea that it's well thought out, even if the design doc is mostly fluff and will change dramatically. People love procedural work.

I've had that exact same experience with my wife. I'd tell her something for weeks, months, years, without her buying into it at all--then I'd watch somebody at a party tell her the same thing and she suddenly agrees! It's been infuriating. But now that I look at it in this framework, I have a path forward: spread ideas to her family and friends first.
I think it can be as simple as...

"I was thinking about what you said, and you were totally right, if we <insert your idea> then we can achieve <insert their goal>. I'm really glad you said that - you really gave me a new perspective on this."

..and you've just described what management consultants do at scale.