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by rat87 2002 days ago
> They can't just call up their lobbyist who's already scheduled to golf with a congressman every other weekend and tell them to bring it up on their next trip.

I think you're vastly underestimating the impact of lobbying and overestimating the cost

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/708195702

Tax Professor wants to try to get a policy (automatically filled out tax returns for CA state taxes)he thinks will be good for the public passed.

He gets nowhere.

Hires a lobbyist at a discount

> BANKMAN: They gave me a deal because they thought it would be kind of fun to work for this crazed professor.

> VANEK SMITH: They were working for you, just you?

> BANKMAN: Yeah. They were working for me. And so the normal price, I think, would have been $140,000 to get Mike's services. But he gave it to me for only 35. So I paid 35,000, I believe.

Got a lot closer (opt in automatic filling) despite massive opposition from anti tax groups and tax prep software lobbyists

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Reading that transcript actually left me thinking the system worked okay in this particular case, even though it led to a bad (in my opinion) policy outcome. The money bought access, not results: in the end, the legislators who voted against largely it did so because of personal belief the policy was bad or because of political pressure from an important campaign group (+), not because of money from Intuit (and it didn't take too much in absolute terms---$140K at full price---to equalize the lobbying power of a single-person pet project with that of a multibillion-dollar company with a strong vested interest in seeing the legislation defeated).

(+): I'm not personally a Grover Norquist fan, but he's influential because a lot of Americans really don't like taxes, and the argument that people will be more opposed to taxes if they're more burdensome does seem internally consistent.

Nobody likes taxes, and Norquist just makes it more painful. Ideologues are jerks.
>Nobody likes taxes, and Norquist just makes it more painful. Ideologues are jerks.

Not nobody. I'm one of the ones who agrees with (purportedly) Oliver Wendell Holmes[0].

[0] "I like to pay taxes. With them I buy civilization." Source: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/04/13/taxes-civilize/

I'm ok with paying taxes (for the reason cited) but I don't like paying them. And part of that is the inconvenience that Norquist has worked to ensure.