[samcal]

From the article:

"I would rather not have to write this post at all. However I know that people will ask about why my talk isn’t available on the JupyterCon site, so I felt that I should explain exactly what happened. In particular, I was concerned that if only partial information became available, the anti-CoC crowd might jump on this as an example of problems with codes of conduct more generally, or might point at this as part of “cancel culture” (a concept I vehemently disagree with, since what is referred to as “cancellation” is often just “facing consequences”). Finally, I found that being on the “other side” of a code of conduct issue gave me additional insights into the process, and that it’s important that I should share those insights to help the community in the future."

With this quote in mind, I highly recommend that you take a look at the rest of the piece, it may challenge some of your views on the topic :)

[zarkov99]

I did, and if anything I am even more certain COC's have degenerated into a plaything for narcissist, useless fools and we are better off throwing the whole thing out until we can figure out how to keep the psychopathic nannies away. This guy, who could not be more decent, was treated horribly. One shudders to think what would happen to less virtuous or politically correct people. I much rather keep hearing from brilliant, irreverent, even disagreable people, even if I risk a little offense now and then, then live a world pre-sanitized by these humorless, self righteous, sterile nullities.

[samcal]

There's a whole lot of ad hominem in this argument. Are you scared that the CoC crowd is going to take all the funny away? That seems unlikely to me.

[zarkov99]

Scared is not the word. I am outraged that the community I belong to is so cowardly that it has allowed itself to be stifled and bullied by people with nothing to offer but their self-awarded moral virtue, a situation that I feel should be denounced loudly and often.

[samcal]

We can quibble over words for sure, but you're certainly implying that if nothing is done, these folks will bully people into having a bad sense of humor. Like I said, that seems unlikely. Folks like being seen as funny, and will strive to be funny in front of people

[zarkov99]

I think we are looking at this very differently. For me the lack of humor is just a canary in the mine for authoritarianism and ideological mono-culture - the very opposite of the values that always attracted me in the tech scene. It seems you think the situation is not that dire and that these folks are doing more good than harm. I suspect the difference in our perspectives is greatly informed by our own political leanings.

[raymond_goo]

How about this quote: "The process has left me shattered" ?

[samcal]

In the context of the article, the author makes it VERY clear that they mean the specific process that they underwent. Is there another take I'm missing?

[raymond_goo]

I think I would like to argue, that these processes have a significant tendency to create more harm than good. Since this is just one of many (e.g. the Drupal Conan Stuff) examples. Especially in combination with our current cancel culture, where an accusation is enough to get some fired from their job.

[samcal]

Ah I see, well in that case I can tell you that the author of that article disagrees with you. It's true that I don't share those same worries about cancel culture with you, my point is that this article is particularly weak evidence for your position.

[caffeine]

I read this as the author realising that the mob that got him is still bloodthirsty, and must continue to be appeased lest they come for him again.