[spongepoc]

>Rewriting history is the power of China's censorship system and media control. It's a pretty scary thing actually.

Circling back to space, this is a fundamental reason why China will struggle to make advances in space once the easy gains have been achieved. Creativity and innovation require a free, liberal and open society to thrive.

These are the priciples which have propelled America's advances in science as they are principles which attract the brightest from around the world.

Very few of the brightest in the world would be willing to sacrifice that freedom to work in China.

[disown]

> Circling back to space, this is a fundamental reason why China will struggle to make advances in space once the easy gains have been achieved.

Are they struggling? Because it seems to me that they are catching up rather quickly.

> Creativity and innovation require a free, liberal and open society to thrive.

This is propaganda we are told over and over again and yet if we bother to think about it for a moment would realize it's a lie.

Human civilizations ( greeks, indian, egyptian, chinese, etc ) were never "free, liberal and open".

Modern science was built up by european and american societies built upon colonization, slavery and genocide.

The greatest leap in american innovation/science/etc happened while we were not free ( slavery/jim crow), illiberal and closed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

> Very few of the brightest in the world would be willing to sacrifice that freedom to work in China.

What freedom? The best and brightest go where the money and opportunities are. And considering china has over a billion people, they don't have to look elsewhere to attract the best and the brightest since they have so many in house.

[someperson]

I don't see China's space program as developing particularly rapidly.

China did a manned mission to low-earth orbit in 2003. 17 years later China hasn't done much on the manned exploration front. Long March 9 isn't expected to even be ready for a manned Lunar mission until the 2030s.

America launched Alan Shepard in 1961 and 8 years later Neil Armstrong walked on the moon.

That said, I think there's no reason why China needs to struggle to make advances in space because copying the innovation of other places works very well.

[dirtyid]

Priorities are simply different right now. Focus is mostly catching up on space infrastructure, indigenous capabilities for civil / military use i.e. actual purpose of space programs. The gap there use to be much larger. Innovative / exploratory missions for nationalism is a sideshow.