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by DaveMebs 5518 days ago
You could call it a warm-up period, but the point is that period is pre-launch. I think it is fair to assume a team at Google worked on this project before launch as well. I don't know how long they did for, but they could have chosen to take the time to develop a better algorithm prior to launch as well. (Note: Google's historical use of the Beta tag, has made it effectively meaningless IMO.) For whatever reason they chose not to, and it's kind of surprising how poor a product they launched with.

Why do they think it is so important to get in this market ASAP? Perhaps under Page there is additional pressure to launch fast and early a la start-ups?

With that said, I have no idea if the quality of EN is as good as he claims.
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kefs 5517 days ago
It's quite a warm-up period.. Founded in 2005, first API went public in March 2008.

http://techcrunch.com/2008/03/27/first-machine-listening-api...

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brianwhitman 5517 days ago
Few things -- yes, we have been working on our stuff for a while. I've been doing it since 1999 at various grad schools and research labs, for example. Notice however we do not release things before they are good. I've spent 12 years working on this stuff and the state of the art simply wasn't ready until recently. First impressions are very important for music, if you lose the trust of your users it's hard to get it back.

Re: "warmup": My point was technologies like ours don't need a warm up period where users give us catalog and preference data. You can have great results without relying on that. Even better, we think.

Also, re: "please buy us" -- come by the office sometime and have some drinks and you'll see why we all found that comment pretty funny. Hopefully someone still reading this thread knows us well enough to +1 this. Come to a music hack day if you're not near boston.

(post-edit: davemebs -- our stuff is pretty easy to try for yourself if you're a developer. see developer.echonest.com . if not, wait a little bit for some consumer facing things. we're primarily developer-focused at the moment)

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