[oblio]

> More like a reminder that primitive tendencies can revert Society back to its violent mean really quickly and that in turn instilled a need to want to preserve what we have and build resilient communities to that end as we all felt vulnerable to that ever-present danger.

Or, you know, not live in perpetual fear of society breaking down, which is something afforded to us by thousands of years of progress and innumerable sacrifices.

[Scheherazade]

“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”- G. Michael Hopf

[oblio]

Any proof for that platitude?

[yocheckitdawg]

Yea tbh that quote never made much sense to me. Wouldn't the Congo or Somalia be a paradise if that were true?

The whole thing hinges on the definition of Strong/Hard/Weak/Good and how you define them.

For example who is stronger, a turn the other cheek reverend or an eye for an eye preacher?

[oblio]

In my experience the kind of people posting that quote are the strongman, eye for an eye type.

[morlockabove]

Not being in perpetual fear of society breaking down seems like a good way to see society break down. What else motivated millenia of sacrifice?

[oblio]

Being aware and rational?

[morlockabove]

I would say that 'aware' is rhetorically the same as 'terrified', and 'rational' just means 'act optimally', so it's implied.

[oblio]

I'm aware that at some point the Sun will expand and engulf Earth, but I'm not terrified of it.

[Melting_Harps]

> I'm aware that at some point the Sun will expand and engulf Earth, but I'm not terrified of it.

Mainly because you won't be there when it happens when it happens, but would you feel the same if you felt earthquakes, nuclear effluence spikes, droughts or landslides from the few times it rained, plus all the aforementioned calamity? It's a visceral feeling that you carry with you for the rest of your Life, and it manifests in different ways depending on the person one of the most prevalent being depression and anxiety as I've seen far too many succumb to alcholism, drug abuse and SSRIs just to cope with the antipathy and eventually apathy towards World around them.

That's what I (and many more like me endured in that period in CA) saw and lived while I lived there until my early 20s, so we adapted (as I'm multi-generational) and I personally sought to apply my skill-set to what I felt had the best chance of ensuring we as a Species transitioned to a sustainable system that spanned: Renewable and sustainable Ag, Farm to table seasonal cuisine, Energy (solar), EV, Currency/Monetary system (Bitcoin) and then I got stupidly ambitious and almost made it to SpaceX this year.

Again, you can take your placid (in my view monotonous and short sighted) and insular existence but the truth is I always wanted to live my young adult Life this way and I have inspired more to pick up where I left off. I wanted what I went through to be for something in order to be a part of something that helps us transition out of this horrid system that has devastated our ecosystem and now looking back on it all I know I did something right.