[nwienert]

The point has nothing to do with whether they do now, but the relative complexity of building a car vs computer.

[ClumsyPilot]

Complexity of a phone has no relevance on your ability to deliver a car, just like it has no relevance on your ability to deliver a hydroelectric dam.

[nwienert]

This isn't reddit, don't just make assertions. Give it an honest try.

[ClumsyPilot]

Serious double-standard going on here. If you make assertions without evidence, i can refute them without evidence.

In particular, you assert that:

1 - phone is more complex than a car

2 - if phones is more complex than a car, then the organisation that produced it can produce a car.

You have provided nothing to back them up. I am in particular disagreeing with the second one.

[nwienert]

Ok, name something more complex than a CPU to manufacture on a car?

Making the leap from "Apple makes many complex hardware parts" to they can make a car is a smaller leap than the opposite - Tesla literally didn't exist and made a car, so to assert Apple somehow couldn't is... weird.

Things Apple builds already that are in cars: custom glass, speakers, lights, complex aluminum frames, computers, cameras, knobs/dials, batteries, screens, wheels, fans, materials from leather to rubber to plastic, memory foam...