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Comparing Pendery 1982 to the Tuskegee Syphilis Study?? That’s a really emotionally charged and completely invalid reach.

I’m not sure how a reasonable conversation can continue. We’ve moved to a Twilight Zone alternate reality at this point. The only way we can go further in to la la land is to make a completely invalid comparison to Nazism so that Godwin’s Law can be invoked.

Another thing: Discarding what a judge says about a what is legal matter is not a particularly compelling argument. It’s the kind of thinking done by people who believe in conspiracy theories. As a contemporary example, people who are convinced that the 2020 United States presidential election was rigged, when pointed out that judges have concluded there is no reasonable evidence supporting that assertion, will say something like “I couldn't really care less what the judge concluded”.

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I mean, when your entire post is a rant it's hard to converse reasonably ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If your problem's with Tuskegee specifically (and at no point did I compare your alcoholism study with Tuskegee, that’s a straw man), there's plenty of other ethical failures I've referenced in sibling replies where it would also be problematic to hand patient data to a separate group of researchers, no matter the good intentions.

My original point, since it seems to have been missed, was that no matter the failings of the original study it would be problematic to pass patient data to a third party without a legal requirement to do so.

With respect to my disregard for what a judge says, if your basis for ethics is "if it's legal then it's fine" then you're definitely in cloud cuckoo land.