[robteix]

None of this is hidden though. We have the absolute choice of not using Apple products. Simple. None of this seems relevant to the discussion at hand either. We can definitely disagree with two companies at the same time.

Facebook is objecting to allowing people to know that they're being tracked everywhere by them. Lots of people don't really understand how that works. I think this is a good thing Apple is doing in this particular case.

[kergonath]

The Zuckerberg defence: “but Apple stuff is expensive; surely that has to be immoral, right?”. As if it had anything to do with this issue.

[stale2002]

> None of this is hidden though.

It absolutely is hidden. Apps are not allowed to be transparent with the user, for how much money is being taken by Apple, directly in the app purchase screen.

That is against the app store TOS, to show as a line item, the cost of the Apple cut.

[ahiknsr]

>>> None of this is hidden though

are you sure about this? "Apple blocks Facebook update that called out 30-percent App Store ‘tax’" [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24301332]

disclaimer: I work for fb

[zepto]

“I work for fb“

Does any of this make you want to reconsider that?

[johnnycerberus]

Let's not be apologetic towards oligarchs. Apple had broken EU privacy law by allowing iPhones to track users for advertising purposes without obtaining consent. Apple is doing the rIgHt ThInG just because they got caught. Facebook is complaining because Apple got caught and now their revenue has to suffer.

[wayneftw]

When 50% of my customers (in the US) have an iPhone, there's no choice for me, the developer, but to deal with Apple.

If I were marketing to youths, I'd have to deal with Apple's 90% market share among my customers!

In this particular case I don't care because FB is garbage IMO but the point stands - Apple has too much power in the US and we need to force them to allow third party app stores.