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> The truth? Especially in anything related to alcohol/substance abuse, there most often is no objective "truth"

I dunno, sounds pretty objective to me:

> Out of the 20 patients the Sobell study claimed were moderately drinking, only one arguably was still moderately drinking a decade later.

Of course, to conclude from a 20 person study that moderate drinking can never work is another thing. But simply ignoring the study can't be the solution either.

> What does help however is "housing first"

This is probably true, but you didn't give any empirical evidence for that either. Also, not all alcoholics are homeless.