[hkt]

True enough, but Gnome has the advantage of being the basis of Phosh + being able to share applications with it, as per on Pinephone and Librem 5.

It works as a converged desktop too. Windows can't do that, OSX is only just getting there. It is impressive that an open source project is so ready for it, really.

[Mediterraneo10]

The problem with GNOME as the basis of Phosh is that little work has been done to optimize GNOME for low-memory, low-CPU-power environments. The Pinephone has limited memory (especially the first board with only 2GB of RAM) and an ancient, low-end processor, and while it will run all this GNOME stuff, it does so only at a snail’s pace. On the Pinephone takes several seconds just to open the wi-fi settings to activate or deactivate wi-fi, for example, something that most mobile-phone users today expect to be a near-instant thing, because on Android it is just a quick swipe and tap.

[kaba0]

Phosh is written from scratch and don’t have much to do with the actual gnome shell source-wise.

[Mediterraneo10]

I’m not talking about the Phosh executable as much as all the other things that Phosh on Mobian is meant to provide an interface with: so much of those preinstalled applications and libs in Mobian are derived from the GNOME project, and they just haven’t been optimized enough to run well on the PinePhone’s hardware.

[kaba0]

Oh I see, misunderstood you there. Yeah, many apps are basically just the desktop version with some pre-configured scaling to make them barely usable - but as far as I know it is only by necessity until the mobile friendlier alternative emerges. But while it is good to see the advances mobile linux GUIs make, they are still far from usable as a primary device :/

[pjmlp]

Windows can surely do that, docking stations for Windows mobile were a thing, then there are tablets and 2-1 hybrid laptops.