[tayo42]

The fact you are giving me band camp links only strengthens the point im saying. Rock is on life support at best, if all you have are bandcamp links to indie bands. People arent going to go through everything on bandcamp to possibly find a gem.

I clicked a few of those links they sound like any band from the last 20 years. New rock sounds for 60 years were mainstream music and accessible and progressive. That is no longer the case. Rock is not a major genre any more. Less people are getting into it. Guitar sales have been dropping, its not popular. For a genre to be healthy it needs innovation and new ideas.

[magicalhippo]

I guess I took your "new" a bit too literally. My point was simply that I think there's a lot of great music out there being made as we speak.

Does it sound similar to what was made 20 years ago? Certainly not everything, but that's where I am with my tastes at the moment.

> The fact you are giving me band camp links only strengthens the point im saying.

I gave Bandcamp links because that's where I get all my music from, and because I think it's better for the artists to share Bandcamp links than to say Spotify.

> People arent going to go through everything on bandcamp to possibly find a gem.

That's why they have Bandcamp Weekly[1] and such, but of course there's lots of other ways.

> Rock is not a major genre any more.

Major as in there's not a lot of really big acts, ala say Kiss or Van Halen, then sure. Is that so surprising?

The affordability of audio recording and the internet means its much easier for smaller acts to find an audience. This leads to more variety, as people can make and find various niches.

Is that a bad thing?

[1]: https://bandcamp.com/?show=412

[tayo42]

> Major as in there's not a lot of really big acts, ala say Kiss or Van Halen, then sure. Is that so surprising?

This is what I mean, popularity of rock is dead compared to what it is has been. There is no innovation in genre, nothing is captivating. There is no new and modern sound to rock. Those bands did something different. There isn't an audience anymore to support that kind of band and there is nothing worth supporting like that out there.

If your going through bandcamp looking for indie bands that play 40 person bars with an audience of 3k likes on facebook, your not the typical listener. You seem to be either really into the scene or sound. metal fans might think there's new metal bands are good, but most people of have heard metal, the small differences between bands arent enough to captivate a new large audience.

Like for me, I don't want to hear another band that sounds like blink182, or nirvana or pink floyd or disturbed or anything other style I listened to death already. Rock now doesn't provide anything fresh.

> its much easier for smaller acts to find an audience. This leads to more variety,

Idk if you can make that assumption, there might be more punk bands then ever before but if they all sound the same, who cares?

> I think there's a lot of great music

I think your thinking of something different then I am. I'm not saying everyone out there are talentless hacks. Like jazz or like I said in the other post disco, some of it is even enjoyable and might have a gem or two. There are lots of talented musicians, but they're not really evolving the genre.

People will always be making music but that doesnt mean the genre is thriving. Maybe bands needs to go underground for a bit for a new sound to emerge. Or the 4 person band with a guitar and drums is going to go the way of jazz bands and younger generations grow up listening to rap and electronic.

[magicalhippo]

> there might be more punk bands then ever before but if they all sound the same, who cares?

> Maybe bands needs to go underground for a bit for a new sound to emerge.

I think this is what I'm trying to get at. The advent of affordable recording sessions and affordable world-wide distribution and marketing (internet) means the underground has become less underground.

Before acts would rise from the underground to the radio with a fresh new sound, but I'm pretty sure if you put them in the scene they came from you'd say "they all sound the same" as well.

They all sound the same today because the radio filter has been removed, and you can experience all of it in a way you couldn't before. So the gradual changes and differences don't get a chance to build up to a radical difference before people hear it.

IMHO this is great, as for me it means I can find a lot more music that I enjoy.

But it would seem it has made it more difficult for you to find the next stand-out thing to enjoy.