[spoonjim]

All of this CCP poison inside Zoom must be a huge gift to Microsoft Teams.

[ipnon]

The popularity of apps like Zoom and TikTok suggests that American national security is an afterthought for consumers.

[spoonjim]

National security cannot be delegated to individual action. It's basically the first and foremost purpose of government.

[goatinaboat]

All of this CCP poison inside Zoom must be a huge gift to Microsoft Teams.

Teams has its own bizarre self-inflicted limitations. For example a limit of only 9 people on screen at once whose positions constantly and randomly change. Having used all of them if you have decent sized screens e.g. 28" or better and are presenting to a group or 20-30 people and want to be able to gauge feedback from faces as you would do in a real meeting or classroom, Zoom just offers a much, much better experience for the presenter, who is probably also the meeting organiser. And it's not just aesthetic, if you are on all day Zoom is actually much less fatiguing than Teams.

Where Teams wins is if you are using it for corporate chat anyway (because you have O365 anyway) and just want to make the occasional 1:1 call.

[xaqfox]

I don't know how new it is, but Teams has a lecture-hall view option that displays more than 9 people.

[nonfamous]

Teams now supports 49 people onscreen.

[goatinaboat]

Teams now supports 49 people onscreen.

Thanks for the tip, I'll check for a new version, but I am running the Microsoft Autoupdater and as of earlier this week, it was still doing the 9-people-only thing and randomly shuffling around.

[goatinaboat]

Update: the latest version available for Mac doesn’t seem to do this. Νot tried on PC yet.