[JamesBarney]

When they talk about being cheaper, they're talking about the salary of an infrastructure team, not the cost of the infrastructure itself.

[qz2]

I’m including that. We still need the same DBA and now we have numerous AWS cert people. More cost and not necessarily more clue I have found.

[JamesBarney]

Pre-cloud I remember having 10 full time infrastructure guys to support 100 devs by building servers, installing software, setting up backups, buying licenses, setting up the network, creating credentials, patching software, etc...

Most of the projects I work on now have 1-2 IT people supporting 100 devs.