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by vlovich123 2016 days ago
Your argument seems to be scalpers don’t have power because OEMs could just raise the price themselves and get all that scalp profit.

That’s good in theory but in practice you have complex sales channel configurations and contractual agreements. If Best Buy is selling your GPU at $400 because that’s the agreed upon MSRP, they’re going to be pretty unhappy if they’re out of stock and suddenly you decide to increase MSRP to $800 after they’ve sold out because then they’ve made even less money.

So your job now is to figure out what the scalp price will be in the future before there’s any demand.

Additionally, please factor in your pissed off customers who paid you $800 for launch day delivery for the price to potentially drop to $400 a few months after. What’s the cost of that brand damage?

Scalpers have numbers (if demand and supply are close, they have an artificial power to restrict it) and power (the OEMs have to tread a delicate line with many constituencies that scalpers don’t since you “blame” scalpers but that doesn’t hurt anyone’s actual reputation).

For all we know scalpers are part of the business plan. NVidia gets record sales numbers and press articles about how the GPU is sold out. All the OEMs offer preferential access to buy the GPUs giving them better margins, getting rid of inventory, and no reputation risk beyond at worst some marginal grumbling that they’re not doing enough to stop scalpers. The only ones getting screwed are early adopters who are eager to pay higher prices.

It’s the perfect way to segment the market by price sensitivity without paying for it or running afoul of any laws if it’s being done intentionally.

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So, I heard an interesting solution to the scalper price problem, where suppliers are unable to raise prices.

What Nvidia could do is sell a special "doctors without border's edition" version of their graphics card, that is 500$ more expensive, and the extra money is donated.

That way, the extra money goes to charity instead of the scalpers, and nobody can really complain about it, because what do you hate charity?

Clever, I like this. Doubtless I'm sure I'm about to read followups telling me why this won't work, which I look forward to reading.
Interesting idea... but I'd only be interested if I could claim that $500 as a tax deduction. :)

Otherwise I'd rather just wait for supply to become available and donate the $500 outright.

I would think that you would not be allowed to deduct the full $500 because you are getting a service — the ability to "skip the line" and grab a graphics card. You can only deduce $500 - FMV of that service, which a reasonable person might say is the difference between the street price of the scalped non-DWB cards and the DWB cards.

If the street price of the scalped cards is higher than the DWB edition, then you would not be able to deduct anything.

This would be for people who want to pay the market price, but who don't want to participate in scalping. If you'd rather wait, then you're not the target market.

I think AMD/NVIDIA are stupid (in a capitalistic sense) for selling their products well below market price, and leaving money on the table for scalpers to collect.

> in practice you have complex sales channel configurations and contractual agreements. If Best Buy is selling your GPU at $400 because that’s the agreed upon MSRP

Just to be clear, you cannot contractually obligate a vendor to sell your product at the MSRP. (Or any other price.) That's the whole reason the term is "manufacturer's suggested retail price".

> ...but in practice you have complex sales channel configurations and contractual agreements...

If simple makes more money these companies can do simple. Every company has a small group of people who can make things happen quickly (which is a couple of months in a big corporation). A price change from $400 -> $800 is going to get their attention.

It seems to me more likely that the reason for a slow response response is that the governments of the world seem to hate change and will likely penalise companies for responding quickly to extreme market signals. The safe way to do it is to release a 'new' product at a vastly inflated price. Basically that is just working around cognitive biases but it works.

The point about scalpers being part of the business plan gave me a few moments of thought; thanks for that.