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by dontbeevil1992 2005 days ago
this website is such an incredible compendium of wisdom and facts. how has this been accomplished?
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It is definitely one of the internet's great rabbit holes.

> how has this been accomplished?

I always assumed it was user-driven like Wikipedia or Stack Overflow and that appears to be the case:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Flanderization?a...

I think the wiki is one of the modern world's most underrated -- and underexploited -- innovations.

> It is definitely one of the internet's great rabbit holes.

There's incidentally an entry for those:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WikiWalk

> I think the wiki is one of the modern world's most underrated -- and underexploited -- innovations.

Agreed on the underrated front. But I feel like I interact with enough wikis that its not obvious to me that they are significantly underexploited. What is an example of a place where you think a wiki could be used to significant effect?

> I always assumed it was user-driven like Wikipedia or Stack Overflow and that appears to be the case

Interestingly, there is now an "official process" for getting a page created. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/Creatin...

I created a page a while back after reading the Wiki Magic page, which at the time described how a page might be created without much content and, if the community saw value in it, fleshed out by community members, as if by magic. The example given of the process was the Mega Neko page.

All of that has been removed, along with the notion that it might be OK to just create a page and see what happens. But although the official process was already in place when I made my page, the direct process hadn't been shut down. I didn't even realize I wasn't supposed to.

Coming back to something of a point, TvTropes, like Wikipedia, seems to have come around to the conclusion that user-generated content was valuable in the past, but they don't want more of it than they already have.

I refer to it as the great index of humanity. what is tv/cinema but a way of capturing & portraying the many foibled forms of humanity? trying to re-distil those many portrayals out into organized, trope-ic forms? pure gold. an index of all humanity.
It's got no notability guidelines and no real verification. It's a free for all. Also it tries to be fun to read.
Similarly as with Wikipedia, TV Tropes is a good source of interesting factoids, viewpoints, trope descriptions and examples; but, even more obviously than Wikipedia, TV Tropes suffers from a lack of editorial oversight: there are usually many unverifiable, nonsensical and/or false factoids per page.
It is the best current version of "the hitch hikers guide to Human Society"
It's a wiki that didn't get taken over by deletionists. Its original guiding principle was "there is no such thing as notability".
Except, of course, when the trope or title be sexual enough that the advertisers might complain, then the “content policy” kicks in — which is of course really all about how pornography has no plot and thus has nothing to talk about, not at all purely about advertisement revenue, as was originally freely admitted.

- The original statement: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/TheGoog...

- The later historical revision: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/TheCont...

Of course, describing tropes that deal with graphic maiming, slavery, mass murder and all that deliciously family friendly matter that Google AdSense doesn't complain about, as the full might of the collective Soccer Mum has never been unleashed against such things, can carry on without incident.

I wonder:

* How many of the wiki authors are actually screenwriters or showbiz ppl?

* How many pro screenwriters actually use this site for reference/inspiration?

They're fandom people.
That doesn't stop them from being screenwriters.
It's a wiki