[citiguy]

Lately it seems to me Debian and Ubuntu have made some strange package decisions. They have morphed into a desktop oriented build with snap packages and auto-updates enabled by default (among other strange decisions). There's a ton of stuff we always end up disabling in the new release because it's super buggy and doesn't work well (I work at a small MSP). I'm not sure who replaced Ian Jackson, but Debian seems rudderless.

Centos was the rational other free choice, not that Red Hat hasn't made other equally strange decisions.

Sometimes I think we'd be better off rolling our own, like Amazon does.

[vbezhenar]

I'm using Debian and I don't use snap packages. I guess it's optional? I just installed Minimal and installed few packages I needed.

[sjellis]

Snap is an Ubuntu thing. It's basically a client for the Canonical app store.

[sliken]

Snap is proprietary and has a fairly broken implementation. Seems impressively good at preventing machines from booting, polluting the filesystem namespace (who wants 100 lines in every df?), doesn't seem to handle versioning or garbage collection well.

Server side isn't open, and Canocial repeatedly claims wide industry support ... despite not having it.

I recommend the first step in any Ubuntu system you use is to disable snap. Use something portable like flatpak that does at least have some support, is open source, and seems to have a healthy eco system.

[jessaustin]

Even on ubuntu, you don't have to use it. I don't.

[type0]

That's the only sane way to use Ubuntu. Snap is abomination