[rfratto]

One of the Loki maintainers here (though I mostly work on other stuff now). I promise it's not difficult on purpose.

We've put a lot of effort into optimizing the Kubernetes experience that non-containerized installations haven't been getting as much attention. We'd be thrilled to have system packages for Loki that also set it up as a service, it's just not something we've been able to spend time doing ourselves yet.

[jitl]

Honestly I mostly throw out the Debian service definitions anyways - when clustering or interacting with Chef or Ansible or whatever, you end up building a lot of ‘smarts’ around a custom supervisor like Runit or skarnet or systemd

[latchkey]

It isn't just loki, but the whole stack. Grafana is the only project mentioned that has a debian installer.

The expectation that someone doing greenfield development is going to jump into k8s just to use the software is kind of weird.

[qz2]

I’m deploying it (prom, alertmanager, pushgateway, grafana) on native hardware via ansible and it’s not difficult. Not Loki (yet). It’s all just go binaries you fire up with systemd with a single config file.

I find it harder to deploy reliably on kubernetes with persistent volumes etc.