[DarthGhandi]

Something I think many miss in the comments here is that even if you completely wiped out natural palm oil usage today that rainforest is still going to get cut down tomorrow.

It will simply just be a different crop, hey they might even raise cattle or buffalo or grow canola instead just to spite the West.

It's painful to watch people think that palm oil is the environmental problem when it's merely the symptom of far deeper issues that are much harder to solve.

Lecturing some family living in poverty to not cut down trees on their land is a bit rich if you look at the history of deforestation in the states and Europe in the last century, to that farmer you're trying to put out of business all he sees is hypocrisy and gatekeeping, not moral duty.

[mjevans]

It's a political problem, which needs a political answer.

Some things should be heritage sites for everyone on the planet. How such a status is achieved and maintained, that's the political part.