[dannyincolor]

Why do you think this is? I find it really bizarre.

My own family in the Midwest kind of passive aggressively implies that they hope I “feel the effect” of these “oppressive laws” and I’m out here shooting guns, enjoying the desert on HOVs, and visiting Yosemite to bask in the beauty. Oppression seems like the last thing I’ve found here, honestly.

Like what grinds people’s gears so hard about CA? Really would love a clear answer

[paconbork]

My perspective is probably a bit different than most, but for me it's that SV just seems like wasted potential. Like here's this place where the high-paying jobs are attracting the most talented people from around the world and you get there it's like... you have 3+ working adults sharing a house built in the 1950's. With all it's money and resources, the area could be on it's way to becoming the next NYC or Tokyo, but instead we get an increasingly boring area that nobody outside of the tech monoculture has any reason to move to.

Basically, Seattle deserves it more.

[meowfly]

I think most of the California gear grinding is probably more politics than anything. Most people I know who don't love SF have no objection to living in a city like San Diego. I think in regards to these specific stories the issue is probably more localized to SV.

Speaking personally, SV is the heavy weight champion of tech areas and people love to cut down proud poppies. This phenomenon exists everywhere. Stories that state Lebron James is overrated or that Tesla has poor build quality always seem to garner attention.

[tayo42]

I think it's a side effect of America's culture war and more recently intensified political war. Fly over vs coasts. And some of misery loves company. And jealousy, California is just kind of cool, not everyone is brave enough to take the chance and move or has the resources. So it's comforting to see oh they're miserable over there.

Though, NY media writes negative stuff about sf too, I think they're jealous that the bay area might be cooler than NYC. When NY has been the one of the ideal places to be for while lol

[fairity]

For me, it's largely a question of whether there's reason to relocate my business. If the latest relocation trend is the real deal and there's a sustainable pool of talent, I'll strongly consider it. I suspect many others follow for similar career-related reasons. Basically, I just want to be able to surround myself with talented people at the lowest cost possible.

[caeril]

> Really would love a clear answer

It's astonishing that you don't understand this, but I'll assume your question is in good faith.

It's because "Silicon Valley" doesn't actually produce etched silicon anymore, or really anything of actual value to humanity, at all. In fact, it's become a net negative for the rest of humanity.

It spends the most valuable IQ points this planet has on endless ad click optimization, addictive social media experiences that induce mass depression, and finding novel ways to censor non-mainstream opinions.

There is no value-add, and there hasn't been for two decades. I suppose Cupertino can lay some small claim to actually advancing humanity with their silicon design, but at the cost of the rest of the company inventing ways to ensure that humans are passive consumers of Apple Credit Cards and Apple TV instead of actually advancing us somewhere other than Idiocracy or Wall-E.

Meanwhile, there are very real and very tangible risks to our very existence that SV ignores because of mathematically flawed assumptions about the actual physical limits to photovoltaics, energy storage, or absurd notions such as "vertical farming". If Wired or The Atlantic prints a glowing story on a 19 year old who will solve resource constraints and climate change, well then, by God they're going to do it. Faith is all you need. Math and reality can GTFO.

What's really hilarious is that HN, at least monthly, gets an article posted and upvoted about how toxic and infantile and terrible SV is, but lessons are never learned because anything that interferes with the income stream necessary to maintain the narrative bubble is mere curiosity.

You even asking this question is indicative of a problem: specifically the problem that you are NOT actually ignorant of the answer. You read the answer on your own echo chamber regularly. Rather, you choose to disregard it and instead regard the people earnestly answering it as trolls, or proles, or some other ignoble fool whose response can be easily forgotten.

As it is that this response will be forgotten. Because introspection is inconvenient, and flyover rubes are beneath you.