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by hyperdimension 2018 days ago
Doesn't sound like 'venting' to me.

Eye strain and inscrutable UI elements sound like concrete complaints. Whether they were phrased diplomatically, I'm not sure, and I'd concede it might be construed as venting depending on the delivery.

That being said, assuming it was brought up constructively, I see nothing wrong with the criticism except for the specific designers' refusal to consider it.
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KirinDave 2018 days ago
It would be great if it was brought up constructively. However, this thread appears to be about mocking the concept of psychological safety in the workplace.
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hyperdimension 2017 days ago
I personally can't really see any evidence of mocking or any psychologically-unsafe ideas in any of the comments in this thread, so I'm not sure what you're referring to. You can criticize a product (design) without disparaging the person who created it, and I hope we all can take constructive criticism without making it personal.

Good UI design shouldn't be strictly for design's sake, so it can be frustrating when something is difficult to use because 'looking good' was prioritized over usability.

There's a quote I've read here that I like and think is appropriate: "Accessibility is for everybody."

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KirinDave 2017 days ago
Really, so this quote by ewmiller that I responded to:

> I wonder how long my employment would last if I just stopped doing a good job and then said that as a response to any effort by my manager or teammates to criticize my output.

was not a direct attack on the notion that professional conduct should include some degree of psychological safety?

Or perhaps this post [0] that says:

> In regular companies, employees who are bad at their jobs shouldn't feel safe, as they are likely to be fired.

I'm a Google SRE. I'm not actually a big fan of the Gmail interface either (and it'd be better if they actually followed material design, imo).

But this spirit is fundamentally opposed to people in corporate environments doing good work. Blameless portmortems exist for a reason. Because otherwise, every systemic or personal failure devolves into a scapegoating competition designed to find and remove the most vulnerable member of the team. My criticism is directed specifically at folks suggesting that internally peers at my workplace should harass designers.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25422855

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