[jcelerier]

> This is exactly why everyone hates using modern C++.

speak for youreself ?

> Their standards committee has run amok with every fancy feature that every new language comes out with in the past two decades. And what has that wrought?

given the amount of languages that reimplement C++ features (and sometimes have to be dragged by the feet to get them, e.g. generics and interface methods in java), I'd say that people who don't understand c++ are doomed to reinvent it :)