[jhpriestley]

Insane that I can buy a fuel-cell Toyota but not an electric. The Hummer is actually going to go electric before the Camry. I get the feeling that Toyota wrote off existing Li-Ion batteries as not good enough to make a marketable car, focused their resources on next-gen moonshots like fuel cells, and are now stubbornly refusing to admit their mistake after Tesla proved them wrong.

[blackrock]

Then, can’t Tesla just buy their solid state battery from Toyota? Or from whoever Toyota’s battery manufacturer is?

The battery pack is not really the critical factor. It’s actually the limiting factor.

If Tesla can find a better battery technology, then I’m sure they would love to just license it, and slap on a new battery to their cars.

The critical factors in the electric car are all the other components, or the lack of, which makes the electric car more reliable than traditional gasoline cars.

[taneq]

Yeah, they’ve doubled down on hydrogen hard enough that switching to battery electric now would lose face.