[bitwize]

Hot take: Lisp (including Clojure) is for shitty programmers.

Great programmers can be great in any language, including C, COBOL, or BANCStar. Their brainpower alone can compensate for the language's lack of abstractive power.

Lisp is a mind prosthesis for the programmer; it extends the programmer's reach. Unless you are working in a complicated, abstruse line of work, you stand most to benefit from this if you are bad at programming.

Hence, the most clamorous Lisp zealots tend to be terrible programmers in their own right. The "wise" programmers jeep plugging along in Java, because it's well-supported by a bigcorp and has a HUGE candidate pool when you need to hire developers who work in it.

[sea6ear]

This might be the best advertisement for me picking up Clojure (or Lisp/Scheme) that I've seen so far.