[majormajor]

> The converse of this is that good, wise developers are going to (ultimately) _demand_ Clojure.

Maybe the really wise developer is aware that not everyone thinks the same, even themselves now vs six months from now, and is very wary of dynamic behavior and cleverness...

I don't want Java or Clojure in a team environment, now that I've got Kotlin.

Or maybe I'm just not wise enough. ;)