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by bachmeier 2025 days ago
> With the advent of DevOps and SRE, businesses and startups are moving away from the old-school concept of traditional server clusters to running their applications on disposable containers. The trend is clear and true. Developers are increasingly less reliant on a tried-and-true Linux distribution that lasts for a decade. With containers, developers can develop, test, deploy, and rollback with blazing fast velocity.

As a user of Linux as my main OS since 2005, and using it partially for years before that, I think another issue is that the quality of software releases is just much higher than it used to be. There used to be a tradeoff between "trustworthy" and "recent". These days it's more "possibility of a problem" vs "absolutely rock solid".

And of course the general move to the web. Apps that run in your browser no longer need to run on a server. When I started in my current job in 2004, there was a Debian stable server used for teaching. (It might still be in use for all I know.) This semester I used CoCalc. That's one less use for an ultrastable server.

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> These days it's more "possibility of a problem" vs "absolutely rock solid".

CentOS is mostly a server distro, I bet 99% of installs are without GUI. So "possibility of a problem" is a no go for a server.

Sorry to break this to you, but if the possibility of a problem is a no go for your servers, you will unfortunately have to pull the plug on them. All software has bugs, so does hardware.
What a supercilious and condescending response, and verging on snark. Sure all software is likely to have bugs, but some software is likely to have less bugs because there's more test coverage or the software is conservative about what features get added/updated.

See:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

Understood, I tried to be funny and failed. Will try to do better next time.
Honestly I thought it was fine and I completely agree. It’s not like parent is a moderator and his/her interpretation is de facto/de jure
Maybe stick a ;) on the end to show a tongue in cheek comment :)
Come on. Possibility of a problem is say Arch, rock stable is Debian / CentOS. There are certainly bugs in the later too, but I never experienced any in 15 years since I run a dozen Linux servers in production.
I understand, your comment simply rubbed me the wrong way, because it, in my mind, kind of ignores the main point of the parent, that nowadays the trade-off is less obvious than it used to be.

I also genuinely want to apologize if my comment came of as patronising. I wanted to express my genuine opinion in a fun way and it seems like I have missed the mark pretty badly.