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by _up 2021 days ago
No thanks, the pre alpha test can do other people. On top of it you still have to wear the mask it doesn't stop you spreading the virus. It just reduces the severity for the people vaccinated.
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> Pre-Alpha test

THIS IS NOT SOFTWARE! I cannot believe I continue to see this complete ignorance smugly repeated on HN. The vaccine has undergone three phases of testing including large scale release. It's been "baked" since January, the only things fine tuned have been the exact dose of the mRNA. Given the effectiveness, it's highly unlikely we'll see a v1.1 anytime soon, if ever, but if we do it would likely have to go through similar levels of testing and would be just as "pre-alpha" as this.

> On top of it you still have to wear the mask it doesn't stop you spreading the virus.

Other comments have already dealt with why we'll still need to use masks.

> it doesn't stop you spreading the virus. It just reduces the severity for the people vaccinated.

We're still waiting on final data on how much vaccinated people will decrease the spread, but everything we've seen so far indicates that eventual severity of illness correlates very closely with how likely you are to infect others. Even if this wasn't true, reducing severity is huge since universal vaccination would then allow the virus to spread with reduced health effects savings hundreds of thousands of lives.

This sentiment is one among many reasons why there will be no return to 'normalcy' any time soon after the introduction of vaccines.
I second this sentiment. I'd wager a few bucks that all the people pressuring others to hurry and get the vaccine will conveniently be in no rush to follow up and check whether the vaccine had any health consequences or offer to help.
I'd take it today with zero qualms.

Don't worry though, what is likely the "average" HN reader (30, male), is pretty much last on the list, so by the time we get it there will be tens or hundreds of millions of people who have received all of the various types of vaccines.

That's not their job. Government departments with Public Health functions do that (e.g. https://vaers.hhs.gov/)
What? Why? You are say "those who want others to become healthy won't want to ensure they stay healthy". That sounds illogical.
Have you never heard about the word "Virtue Signaling"?
> On top of it you still have to wear the mask

This is the most nonsensical part to me. If the vaccine does what they say it does (reduce severe cases) then the justification for mask wearing and social distancing is gone.

As more people become vaccinated the transmission rate will drop rapidly and people will stop complying with masks and distancing, etc. Same thing that happened in the Northeast and West when the transmission rare was suppressed, people started acting more and more normal and things reopened. Except this time, they'll have good reason to.
When herd immunity is reached, then the need will be gone.
Only if everybody you come into contact with has been vaccinated. In the meantime, the vaccine might just be turning you into an asymptomatic carrier.