[gtrhtrhtrhtr]

I don't agree. I don't like tipping and so I do not eat out usually because of this.

Right now I understand that we need to do our part to help small businesses, so I'm making an effort and tricking my brain into eating out by not tipping. This is where I want to put my money: I think it's my responsibility if small businesses are going to survive, I don't think it's my responsibility if workers are not paid well.

[majormajor]

Why do you value the small business owner more than the small business employee?

[gtrhtrhtrhtr]

I value the employee, I think they'll do fine with minimum wages, but they won't do fine if the small business goes down.

[minikites]

One of the reasons some people visit restaurants is to feel powerful in relation to their server and a big part of that is making them "perform" for a good tip.

[alistairSH]

I don't like tipping and so I do not eat out usually because of this.

This doesn't really make sense. Without tipping (expected nationally), the cost of labor would just have to be priced directly into the food. Instead of a $15 burger, it would be $20.

If you don't like to spend money on dining out, fine, but it has little to do with tipping and more to do with being frugal.

[ketamine__]

> This doesn't really make sense. Without tipping (expected nationally), the cost of labor would just have to be priced directly into the food. Instead of a $15 burger, it would be $20.

So basically it does make sense because it is easier if the price is the total cost.

[gtrhtrhtrhtr]

I disagree, tipping is stupid because it is based on percentages. Why should I give more tip because I bought a more expensive item? Sorry but we don't have to agree, forcing tipping on others is an asshole move.

[learc83]

Tipping severs is the way our society works. By eating at table service restaurant you are implying that you are going to pay the server despite the fact that you have no intention to do so. It’s no different than your manager dicking you around by saying you’ll probably get a raise if you work overtime despite having no intention to do so.

Rationalize all you want, but you’re acting like a huge asshole.

If you are morally opposed to tipping, eat takeout or at a counter serve restaurant.

[Alupis]

You say you don't eat out because you don't like tipping - and that businesses should just pay their employees more so you don't have to tip. OK fine - but doesn't that just result in a meal costing what it does now + tip? How is that any different?

Actually, it would cost more than just standard price + tip as you funnel the money into the business first before it hits the employee's bank account.

> Right now I understand that we need to do our part to help small businesses, so I'm making an effort and tricking my brain into eating out by not tipping

This logic is absurd. Both small businesses and employees of small businesses are being crushed right now. Support them both or don't use their services.

You deciding to eat out is consuming time from the wait staff (who often tips out bussers and kitchen staff too). That time could have been spent serving another table that decides to tip.

You are literally taking money away from small business employees by continuing this behavior. You are punishing them for serving you a meal. How is that appropriate?