[aksss]

I can’t help but think you’re subtracting points for needing to upgrade firmware (not sure I would) and the negative experience you had doing so. Also when you say “headset” I think we may be comparing different models.

I’ve never had a firmware upgrade fail on my set of Jabra Elite 75t’s yet, and I think I’ve done three, maybe four since I got them.

I’ve never had to use or been tempted to use an app for them on the PC, only using the one on my iPhone. They work great, sound quality seems fine but not fantastic - maybe AirPods are better, but I wouldn’t know. One nice thing is the EQ in the Jabra app - it’s not “adaptive” like AirPods, but I consider manual EQ a better feature if it’s an either/or decision. Have presets for music and meetings that I rarely mess with unless on long meeting or longer music listening session. I can see how the adaptive would save you from even thinking about it so I can see why some people would prefer it.

The one thing I find annoying about the Jabra set is that if I take the left ear out to talk to someone, I may have to put both back in case and out again to get them both back online. I hear about similar problems with AirPods though.

[dkonofalski]

I definitely am. The headphones didn't work out of the box on several devices, even just via Bluetooth. It sounded like an old-timey telephone. And that's exactly where I think Apple has the advantage. My overall experience with Airpods was so much better and continues to be better and more seamless. The Jabra headphones are fine but I don't even think they're worth what I paid for them and that wasn't as much as the new Airpods headphones.

[whatevertrevor]

> It sounded like an old-timey telephone.

Again check the codec mac is using for this. I've had no issues with them, you either had a defective device or Mac is forcing the SBC codec. On windows there's a headset audio device for every bluetooth device that sounds garbage too (regardless of what the device actually is).

[dkonofalski]

There's no way to set the codec on the Mac unless the individual software has an option for it. Considering that no other devices have this issue and it was improved with a firmware update, I'm going to say it wasn't an issue with the Mac at all.