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by billy_beef 2012 days ago
Your assertion was largely that an article like this didn’t have value. I explained why it does. You are free debate the points of pg here, but that’s not how our disagreement began and you are asking me to defend a different point than the one I commented initially to defend. Do you still believe the article is just a way to label pg as bad, or do you see why a discussion of issues of his credibility is important?
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my assertion was that its of questionable value to add someone to a list of "wrong-thinkers" or in other ways suggest that they have no further contributions to make without supporting that assessment. Its great to criticize someone's thought, its not so great to attempt to deplatform them by persuading other people not to examine their ideas.

> Do you still believe the article is just a way to label pg as bad, or do you see why a discussion of issues of his credibility is important?

I think its great to discuss his credibility. I think its less great to try to write him off based on the results of that discussion.

I'm not writing him off, certainly. But I also don't see how this labels him as a wrong thinker? It demonstrates that he's missed the mark a lot as a result of his over-reliance on intuition. His technique for finding truth seems amiss. I don't think anyone is deplatforming him either. He's still able to write his blog and use all of his internet accounts. This article is compelling his audience to be more critical of the technique he's using to figure things out.
>> His attempts to grapple with the major issues of the present, especially as they intersect with his personal legacy, are so mired in intuition and incuriosity that they’re at best a distraction, and worst a real obstacle to understanding our paths forward. Unfortunately, this seems unlikely to ever change.

> What value is there in group-classifying the 'wrongthinkers', except to save people the exhaustion and torture of learning new and diverse ideas and for thinking for themselves?

I think we probably agree more than we disagree and just took different things from the discussion. The above quotes (one from the article and one from the original comment I replied to) are offered as an example of the sentiment I was replying to. Thanks for the discussion.