[babesh]

Stop putting it all on the federal government. It’s also state government’s fault. California only thinks in terms of lockdowns even after all these months. Also look at people’s personal behaviors. I saw more and more people walking around without masks recently. Downtown Burlingame was shockingly bad.

[jacobolus]

> California only thinks in terms of lockdowns

What are you thinking of? Personally I think we could do much better at hiring contact tracers, getting test sites into vulnerable neighborhoods, doing general community outreach, making sure public-facing workers have sufficient PPE, figuring out how to get infected people places to isolate away from their households, protecting incarcerated people, etc.

But historically the USA has been heavily reliant on the CDC and the federal government more generally to muster resources and coordinate responses. When leadership is entirely absent (and indeed, federal officials are out lying about the pandemic every day), states have a tough time picking up the slack.

> look at people’s personal behaviors. I saw more and more people walking around without masks recently

From what I understand, a major goal of shelter-in-place orders is to convince individual people to act more carefully.

[babesh]

My opinion is that people are tired of the orders and that they will not change people’s behaviors.

[edmundsauto]

What makes you think this is a belief held by a large number of people, rather than a vocal minority?

[babesh]

I am not so much looking at what people are saying rather I am looking at how people are behaving. People are much more relaxed and take time to shop. Some downtowns are quite busy with foot traffic. Those areas have people walking around without masks (supposedly eating or drinking). It is hard to socially distance in those areas.

[jacobolus]

So we should give up and let the hospitals collapse and an extra few tens of thousands of California residents die?

[babesh]

I was not expressing an opinion as to what to do. Rather I was expressing how I thought people will behave.