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by pjmlp 2024 days ago
Android Java is not Java, and yes when I take someone's product and don't pay what the license specifies, while introducing an incomplete implementation, that is 100% ripping off.

Thankfully we are going to have that settled in the near future, and then Android folks can party all night long with their Kotlin implementation and rename ART into KVM.
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UncleEntity 2024 days ago
> Sun Microsystems, Inc. (SUN) hereby grants to you a fully-paid, nonexclusive, nontransferable, perpetual, worldwide limited license (without the right to sublicense) under SUN's intellectual property rights that are essential to practice this specification. This license allows and is limited to the creation and distribution of clean room implementations of this specification that...[list of requirements]

AFAICT the whole fight is over API's and not "don't pay what the license specifies" as they give you the ability to do a clean-room implementation without paying royalties.

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hutzlibu 2024 days ago
Despite dalvic and co. it still pushed the Java ecosystem, right?

Not what I would call a tornado in the meaning pf destruction.

And about the license, well, it is disputed, right? I only read about it tangential, but the case seemed far from crystal clear to me.

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pjmlp 2024 days ago
As much as Microsoft did with J++.

No one needs Android Java slowing down the Java ecosystem by imposing additional burdens on Java library authors that also want to target Android.

Besides Google that is.

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